London "city" names - which names?

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Re: London "city" names - which names?

Postby dknight212 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:47 am

Twister_UK wrote:Agree with using the locality names rather than the generic London, and with removing any (London) suffixes where present and where possible. I'll only include the suffix when I'm editing an area which suffers a name clash with somewhere else in the UK, and like richardjeeves I've also been removing them from those areas of NW London which currently have it but don't need it.


Have you seen any decent OS place names for London?
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Re: London "city" names - which names?

Postby dknight212 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:32 pm

Twister_UK wrote:Unfortunately not, as whilst the OS data provides three levels of area naming (City -> Borough -> Locality), the latter is far far too finely grained to be of any use for our needs - often the locality will only cover a handful of streets, with several such localities covering the area pretty much all of us would associate with a completely different locality name.

e.g. the area we'd probably all describe as South Hampstead (and which is marked as such in the OS Opendata viewer), apparently consists of the much smaller areas Frognal & Fitzjohns, Belsize, Swiss Cottage etc. etc.

Hmm, now I think about it some more, I wonder if plotting each of these areas on the map might at least give us a better idea as to where the more commonly accepted area boundaries lie...


So are the OS localities close in size to parishes?
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Re: London "city" names - which names?

Postby dknight212 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:02 pm

Twister_UK wrote:I'm a muppet... they're the wards, as shown in the Opendata viewer when you select the appropriate boundary overlay.


And wards won't be good enough, agreed? I'll do some googling for other sources.
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Re: London "city" names - which names?

Postby dknight212 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:05 pm

or could we draw our own rough areas on a google map somewhere to see if we can agree?
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Re: London "city" names - which names?

Postby dknight212 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:20 pm

Is the OS 1:50000 scale gazetteer any use?

https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openda ... ducts.html
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Re: London "city" names - which names?

Postby dknight212 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:33 pm

dknight212 wrote:Is the OS 1:50000 scale gazetteer any use?

https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openda ... ducts.html


It's not perfect (as it contains some attractions which would need editing out) but it might help. I've downloaded a copy if someone wants to view it. Works quite nicely as an off-line "city" name checker.
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Re: London "city" names - which names?

Postby dknight212 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:17 pm

Easy enough to edit out the non locality data as there's a feature type field. We would want c (city), t (town) and o (other locality).

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Re: London "city" names - which names?

Postby dknight212 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:31 am

Let's wait a week or so for other comments before proceeding with anything. If anyone wants to force a vote on this or the other London issues I'm ok with that.
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Re: London "city" names - which names?

Postby dknight212 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:38 pm

London is an odd place! Is City of London too long?

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Re: London "city" names - which names?

Postby dknight212 » Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:31 am

Arrrrggggghhhhh!

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